was much agitated, at length he began to tell me for what purpose he had sent for me; which was to speak to me upon the subject of attesting the above deposition. I immediately stood up and said, “Governor Macquarie, I object to your Excellency making any observations upon my public conduct before the Gentlemen now present, unless I have a friend to hear what your Excellency may have to say to me.” At this he was extremely violent to me, he would not allow me to have any but those who were present. I made a motion, as if I was on the eve of making my escape; when his Excellency said, with much warmth, “I command you as Governor of this Colony, to sit down, and to hear me patiently.” I then sat down very quietly, but determined to show him, that he might as well have left me alone. He asked me if I had attested such a deposition; I told him I had. He asked if I was not ashamed of myself for doing so; I said, no, I was not; I supposed that he, his Excellency, had ordered these men to be publicly punished, I did not conceive that His Excellency cared if all the world knew that he had done so. He replied, he did not care; but he cared for my signature being put to the deposition; and that in doing this I had been guilty of mutiny, sedition and other high crimes. I told him if I had done wrong, I had no objection to suffer for the wrong I had done.